Swimming Party - Town Hall Meeting
It's time that I try to put in things that are going on in my life. I am currently quite involved in debate over the Health Care Reform that Obama is trying to inflict upon the people of this county. I agree that Health Care Reform needs to take place, but I don't agree that there should be a public health insurance that will take out private industries over the course of a few years. There is a 1000 page document that they are trying to pass, and it looks like a lot of things are in there that are disagreeable to a free society. I don't pretend to have the answers, but it does look like a bum deal. I am hoping that it doesn't pass, and that we will come up with a better alternative.
Anyway, yesterday at work they had the birthday lunch for the July and August birthdays. I went to that, and had some good food and listened to how the company is doing in these depressed economic times. It doesn't sound like we are doing terrible, but we aren't doing as well as we would like too. I think, overall, it was good news.
Tuesday night there was a combined Young Men/Young Women activity which was a pool party at one of the members houses. We also listened to brother Mabunga with a devotional for the first part of it. He talked about keeping your bodies temples clean. It was interesting because he has been a bishop 3 different times for five years each with one year off to do something else. He was also a young men president and a ward missionary. He also served some time as a mission president. Now, he is getting ready to be the temple president in the Philippines. He and his wife have only lived in our ward for a few months. He said his daughter would move into his home while he is gone. What a life of service he has done.
After the devotional all of the kids went out and jumped into the pool. It was kind of interesting because the boys went to one side and the girls to the other. The boys played basketball and the girls kind of splashed around and visited. Only one adult actually got in the pool. I spent my time talking to various adults (including the Mabungas). We also had dinner of hamburgers while we were there.
I took Melina home (my daughter had invited her) and then my daughter. My wife was outside talking to the Sreys. I went out for the last part. We talked a little bit about the freedoms we have in this country in comparison to how their early years in Cambodia and their escaping Cambodia when the Communists completely took over. We still need to have them over for dinner sometime to tell us their stories. I think they would be great stories to hear.
Tonight, I had to go pick up our daughter from Marching Band. I also grabbed some Tacos and got home. I had to hurry up and eat my Taco because I was a bit late to the Town Hall Meeting taking place at the Middle School. I was only a few minutes late. It was started by giving at least two people awards for military service. That was kind of nice. Then, the meeting started. Jason Chaffetz (our congressional representative) presided. There were times that he talked a bit too much and people in the audience would yell for him to get to questions and comments from us. The majority of the town hall meeting was on the public health care bill that is being booted around in DC. Most of the people there (and most of the people in Utah) agree with me that the public health care option is not good.
The first person that Chaffetz asked for a comment was one that is for the public option. There were a few Boos with him as well as a few people who cheered him on. It went on from there. Chaffetz held up the 1000 page bill and said that he was against it. He told us that it was hatched with all kinds of notes about midnight one night and then they were expected to vote on it at 1:00 PM without having the proper time to even look it over. It is incredible to me how fast Obama tries to pull the wool over peoples eyes, and he has done it on about everything that I have seen. He is in a hurry to get everything through despite the fact that he told us (during his campaign) that everything would be online for people to look at for at least five days (for peoples comments) before signing goes on with it. I guess this one has not gotten to that point, but other things have, and he has never given people that five day window. As it sits, this one is too big for only five days to review it and make good comments.
When Chaffetz called on others to ask a question or comment, the first guy he asked to do this kept on heckling each of them. He was told that he had had his turn, but he still continued with this idiocy. There were those that agreed with Chaffetz and there were those that disagreed. There were boos, and there were cheers. One guy on the sidelines started to yell "You guys call yourselves Christians?, you guys are against helping out your neighbor?". He was kind of irritating and telling us that if we don't pass this thing that we are the anti Christ. It was pretty funny, and nobody took him serious on either side.
Then there was a lady on one side of the place with a sign that said she had a full time job and no insurance. I was kind of impressed that she held it up throughout the whole meeting (it went for an hour and a half). There was another little boy on the other side holding a sign asking us not to give him extra expenses to pay. I was unimpressed that a mother (or father) would have him do that. I think that is a form of child abuse.
There was a guy near the front that got up and told of his wife's' breast cancer. He had put out about $5000 so far and was looking at a lot more (after insurance). He wanted to know what we would do to help him out. He was for the public option. I disagreed with him about that, but thought he was pretty reasonable. However, he ended up being completely unreasonable as the meeting progressed. He ended up standing up and yelling at Chaffetz and using language that was inappropriate in the meeting. One older gentleman tried to get him to sit down by putting his hand on his head and then tried to block his view from Chaffetz. Another lady stood up and was waving papers in her hand as if saying, Shh, Shh, Shh. We couldn't hear her, but it was pretty funny. In the meantime the police came over to get between Chaffetz and this guy just in case something would happen there (nothing did). Chaffetz ended up telling the guy that there were young people here and he shouldn't use that kind of language. He then said that he wishes he would speak with a vocabulary of words that were over four characters long. That got a good laugh.
More people spoke. Chaffetz did some lecturing and gave political stances on education and other things as well as the public health insurance. The room was filled with caring people and there was a lot of noise at times and quiet at other times. Overall, it was a crowd that was mostly in control. The lady with the sign yelled out some things (I couldn't hear her that well). Other people yelled out a few other things. The audience asked for them to be silent while others had the floor.
One man stood up and called Chaffetz a liar. He pointed out that the Post Office has competition and that they are able to stand up with a public service so why can't health care. Chaffetz told him that one difference is that the Postal Service is within the Constitution (Section 8, Clause 7), and that public health care is not. Then he told Chaffetz that where he lied was when he talked on KSL radio today on the Doug Wright show and talked about end of life counseling, at which point Chaffetz read from the actual bill. The guy just kept on yelling that it was a choice, and Chaffetz said that it was mandated in the Bill as we all heard him reading from it. Then Brother Cromar stood up and had his couple of minutes. He basically was saying that we need to get back to the Constitution and that everything that he has seen coming out of DC was the stupidest thing he had ever seen in his life. That got some cheering.
Everything wound down, and people left. It was a big crowd so it took me about 10 minutes to get out of the parking lot. As I left, I picked up a brochure from Osmond who is running for mayor of South Jordan. I am kind of inclined to vote for him from what I've seen so far.
It's a great country that we can go to one of these meetings and though we disagree vehemently at times that we can leave with no violence happening. I am grateful to be in this great country of America, and pray that it will continue to be the great place it is. I am convinced that these debates that we have and differences that we have is a part of what makes America great. Of course, I still hope things go the way I believe they should.
Anyway, yesterday at work they had the birthday lunch for the July and August birthdays. I went to that, and had some good food and listened to how the company is doing in these depressed economic times. It doesn't sound like we are doing terrible, but we aren't doing as well as we would like too. I think, overall, it was good news.
Tuesday night there was a combined Young Men/Young Women activity which was a pool party at one of the members houses. We also listened to brother Mabunga with a devotional for the first part of it. He talked about keeping your bodies temples clean. It was interesting because he has been a bishop 3 different times for five years each with one year off to do something else. He was also a young men president and a ward missionary. He also served some time as a mission president. Now, he is getting ready to be the temple president in the Philippines. He and his wife have only lived in our ward for a few months. He said his daughter would move into his home while he is gone. What a life of service he has done.
After the devotional all of the kids went out and jumped into the pool. It was kind of interesting because the boys went to one side and the girls to the other. The boys played basketball and the girls kind of splashed around and visited. Only one adult actually got in the pool. I spent my time talking to various adults (including the Mabungas). We also had dinner of hamburgers while we were there.
I took Melina home (my daughter had invited her) and then my daughter. My wife was outside talking to the Sreys. I went out for the last part. We talked a little bit about the freedoms we have in this country in comparison to how their early years in Cambodia and their escaping Cambodia when the Communists completely took over. We still need to have them over for dinner sometime to tell us their stories. I think they would be great stories to hear.
Tonight, I had to go pick up our daughter from Marching Band. I also grabbed some Tacos and got home. I had to hurry up and eat my Taco because I was a bit late to the Town Hall Meeting taking place at the Middle School. I was only a few minutes late. It was started by giving at least two people awards for military service. That was kind of nice. Then, the meeting started. Jason Chaffetz (our congressional representative) presided. There were times that he talked a bit too much and people in the audience would yell for him to get to questions and comments from us. The majority of the town hall meeting was on the public health care bill that is being booted around in DC. Most of the people there (and most of the people in Utah) agree with me that the public health care option is not good.
The first person that Chaffetz asked for a comment was one that is for the public option. There were a few Boos with him as well as a few people who cheered him on. It went on from there. Chaffetz held up the 1000 page bill and said that he was against it. He told us that it was hatched with all kinds of notes about midnight one night and then they were expected to vote on it at 1:00 PM without having the proper time to even look it over. It is incredible to me how fast Obama tries to pull the wool over peoples eyes, and he has done it on about everything that I have seen. He is in a hurry to get everything through despite the fact that he told us (during his campaign) that everything would be online for people to look at for at least five days (for peoples comments) before signing goes on with it. I guess this one has not gotten to that point, but other things have, and he has never given people that five day window. As it sits, this one is too big for only five days to review it and make good comments.
When Chaffetz called on others to ask a question or comment, the first guy he asked to do this kept on heckling each of them. He was told that he had had his turn, but he still continued with this idiocy. There were those that agreed with Chaffetz and there were those that disagreed. There were boos, and there were cheers. One guy on the sidelines started to yell "You guys call yourselves Christians?, you guys are against helping out your neighbor?". He was kind of irritating and telling us that if we don't pass this thing that we are the anti Christ. It was pretty funny, and nobody took him serious on either side.
Then there was a lady on one side of the place with a sign that said she had a full time job and no insurance. I was kind of impressed that she held it up throughout the whole meeting (it went for an hour and a half). There was another little boy on the other side holding a sign asking us not to give him extra expenses to pay. I was unimpressed that a mother (or father) would have him do that. I think that is a form of child abuse.
There was a guy near the front that got up and told of his wife's' breast cancer. He had put out about $5000 so far and was looking at a lot more (after insurance). He wanted to know what we would do to help him out. He was for the public option. I disagreed with him about that, but thought he was pretty reasonable. However, he ended up being completely unreasonable as the meeting progressed. He ended up standing up and yelling at Chaffetz and using language that was inappropriate in the meeting. One older gentleman tried to get him to sit down by putting his hand on his head and then tried to block his view from Chaffetz. Another lady stood up and was waving papers in her hand as if saying, Shh, Shh, Shh. We couldn't hear her, but it was pretty funny. In the meantime the police came over to get between Chaffetz and this guy just in case something would happen there (nothing did). Chaffetz ended up telling the guy that there were young people here and he shouldn't use that kind of language. He then said that he wishes he would speak with a vocabulary of words that were over four characters long. That got a good laugh.
More people spoke. Chaffetz did some lecturing and gave political stances on education and other things as well as the public health insurance. The room was filled with caring people and there was a lot of noise at times and quiet at other times. Overall, it was a crowd that was mostly in control. The lady with the sign yelled out some things (I couldn't hear her that well). Other people yelled out a few other things. The audience asked for them to be silent while others had the floor.
One man stood up and called Chaffetz a liar. He pointed out that the Post Office has competition and that they are able to stand up with a public service so why can't health care. Chaffetz told him that one difference is that the Postal Service is within the Constitution (Section 8, Clause 7), and that public health care is not. Then he told Chaffetz that where he lied was when he talked on KSL radio today on the Doug Wright show and talked about end of life counseling, at which point Chaffetz read from the actual bill. The guy just kept on yelling that it was a choice, and Chaffetz said that it was mandated in the Bill as we all heard him reading from it. Then Brother Cromar stood up and had his couple of minutes. He basically was saying that we need to get back to the Constitution and that everything that he has seen coming out of DC was the stupidest thing he had ever seen in his life. That got some cheering.
Everything wound down, and people left. It was a big crowd so it took me about 10 minutes to get out of the parking lot. As I left, I picked up a brochure from Osmond who is running for mayor of South Jordan. I am kind of inclined to vote for him from what I've seen so far.
It's a great country that we can go to one of these meetings and though we disagree vehemently at times that we can leave with no violence happening. I am grateful to be in this great country of America, and pray that it will continue to be the great place it is. I am convinced that these debates that we have and differences that we have is a part of what makes America great. Of course, I still hope things go the way I believe they should.
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